WICEN Vic: Working with Children Checks

[John Elliott]

I have to agree with Mark's comments. If you require all WICEN members to
have WWC checks/cards then the committee better get serious about it and
formulate a clear plan.

A few years ago now, when I was membership officer WICEN attended an
activity where *fourteen (14) *of the  WICEN operators/assistant operators
 , *were NOT WICEN* members , but had filled out the appropriate  form as
temporary members ??.   Now you (committee) have to consider that you will
need  to confirm, in writing, that these temporary members (whatever that
means) have WWC cards before you can let them participate in an activity
under the WICEN banner....




Regards
John Elliott



On 17 July 2017 at 11:57, Mark Dods <madods at optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> As a Scout Leader I have a current WWC card, so if WICEN decide to require
> them, it would not inconvenience me.
>
> I also see no harm in individual WICEN members applying for a WWC card or
> including WICEN on their list of "employers".
>
> However, I would be opposed to WICEN requiring WWC checks, partly because
> of the administrative overhead for WICEN, but mainly because it is
> unnecessary and represents bureaucratic "scope creep". The WWC is clearly
> not intended for everyone who may come into contact with children. (Let's
> face it, everyone comes into contact with children at some time.) The WWC
> website says this prominently: "Not everyone who has contact with children
> needs a Working with Children Check".
>
> The WWC "Who needs a Check" page lists 6 criteria for "Child Related
> Work", ALL of which must be met for a person to NEED a WWC check. Working
> for WICEN does not meet the third of these in that none of the listed
> occupational fields apply to us. "Clubs and Associations" comes close, but
> the details of that occupational field are "Clubs, associations or
> movements *of a cultural, recreational or sporting nature*" (My emphasis)
> which do not describe WICEN.
>
> It is conceivable that a WICEN member may fail a WWC check, and while that
> person may therefore not be someone I would esteem, I see no reason why
> they should not be able to contribute to the community by serving as a
> WICEN operator.
>
> My 2c (inc GST).
>
> Mark.
>
> On 16/07/2017 9:09 PM, Tony Langdon wrote:
>
> On 16/07/2017 5:17 PM, John and Bronwyn Morrissey wrote:
>
>
>
> My view is that WICEN should encourage all members to have WWC, and my
> understanding is that WICEN (as an incorporated volunteer organisation)
> should be able to sponsor those wishing to gain WWC.
>
>
>
> Personally, I have had WWC for many years and recommend all WICEN members
> obtaining one too.
>
> For me personally, it's a non issue.  I already have a WWC, which I ned
> for both work and volunteer roles, so the only change would be adding WICEN
> to my list of places where I use it.  On an organisational level, I do see
> it as a good thing to require WWC for all members.  That's got to be a
> selling point for operating at any events where there's likely to be
> children.  Having WWCs also means less risk of having to test those grey
> areas in court.
>
> --
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>
>
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