WICEN Vic: Working with Children Checks

Mark Dods madods at optusnet.com.au
Sun Jul 16 20:57:34 CDT 2017


As a Scout Leader I have a current WWC card, so if WICEN decide to 
require them, it would not inconvenience me.

I also see no harm in individual WICEN members applying for a WWC card 
or including WICEN on their list of "employers".

However, I would be opposed to WICEN requiring WWC checks, partly 
because of the administrative overhead for WICEN, but mainly because it 
is unnecessary and represents bureaucratic "scope creep". The WWC is 
clearly not intended for everyone who may come into contact with 
children. (Let's face it, everyone comes into contact with children at 
some time.) The WWC website says this prominently: "Not everyone who has 
contact with children needs a Working with Children Check".

The WWC "Who needs a Check" page lists 6 criteria for "Child Related 
Work", ALL of which must be met for a person to NEED a WWC check. 
Working for WICEN does not meet the third of these in that none of the 
listed occupational fields apply to us. "Clubs and Associations" comes 
close, but the details of that occupational field are "Clubs, 
associations or movements *of a cultural, recreational or sporting 
nature*"(My emphasis) which do not describe WICEN.

It is conceivable that a WICEN member may fail a WWC check, and while 
that person may therefore not be someone I would esteem, I see no reason 
why they should not be able to contribute to the community by serving as 
a WICEN operator.

My 2c (inc GST).

Mark.

On 16/07/2017 9:09 PM, Tony Langdon wrote:
> On 16/07/2017 5:17 PM, John and Bronwyn Morrissey wrote:
>>
>> My view is that WICEN should encourage all members to have WWC, and 
>> my understanding is that WICEN (as an incorporated volunteer 
>> organisation) should be able to sponsor those wishing to gain WWC.
>>
>> Personally, I have had WWC for many years and recommend all WICEN 
>> members obtaining one too.
>>
> For me personally, it's a non issue.  I already have a WWC, which I 
> ned for both work and volunteer roles, so the only change would be 
> adding WICEN to my list of places where I use it. On an organisational 
> level, I do see it as a good thing to require WWC for all members.  
> That's got to be a selling point for operating at any events where 
> there's likely to be children.  Having WWCs also means less risk of 
> having to test those grey areas in court.
> -- 
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