<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">I have to agree with Mark's comments. If you require all WICEN members to have WWC checks/cards then the committee better get serious about it and formulate a clear plan.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">A few years ago now, when I was membership officer WICEN attended an activity where <b>fourteen (14) </b>of the WICEN operators/assistant operators , <b>were NOT WICEN</b> members , but had filled out the appropriate form as temporary members ??. Now you (committee) have to consider that you will need to confirm, in writing, that these temporary members (whatever that means) have WWC cards before you can let them participate in an activity under the WICEN banner....</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br><font size="2">Regards<br>John Elliott</font><br></div><div style="text-align:center" dir="ltr"><p style="background-position:0% 0%;background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat"><br></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 July 2017 at 11:57, Mark Dods <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:madods@optusnet.com.au" target="_blank">madods@optusnet.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-2468889847556397633moz-cite-prefix"><font face="Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif">As a Scout Leader I have a current WWC card, so if
WICEN decide to require them, it would not inconvenience me.<br>
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I also see no harm in individual WICEN members applying for a
WWC card or including WICEN on their list of "employers".<br>
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However, I would be opposed to WICEN requiring WWC checks,
partly because of the administrative overhead for WICEN, but
mainly because it is unnecessary and represents bureaucratic
"scope creep". The WWC is clearly not intended for everyone who
may come into contact with children. (Let's face it, everyone
comes into contact with children at some time.) The WWC website
says this prominently: "Not everyone who has contact with
children needs a Working with Children Check".<br>
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The WWC "Who needs a Check" page lists 6 criteria for "Child
Related Work", ALL of which must be met for a person to NEED a
WWC check. Working for WICEN does not meet the third of these in
that none of the listed occupational fields apply to us. "Clubs
and Associations" comes close, but the details of that
occupational field are "Clubs, associations or movements <b>of
a cultural, recreational or sporting nature</b>"</font><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif"> (My emphasis)</font> which do not describe
WICEN.<br>
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It is conceivable that a WICEN member may fail a WWC check, and
while that person may therefore not be someone I would esteem, I
see no reason why they should not be able to contribute to the
community by serving as a WICEN operator.<br>
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My 2c (inc GST).<br>
<br>
Mark.<br>
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On 16/07/2017 9:09 PM, Tony Langdon wrote:</font><br>
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<div class="m_-2468889847556397633moz-cite-prefix">On 16/07/2017 5:17 PM, John and
Bronwyn Morrissey wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial" color="navy"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">My view is that
WICEN should encourage all members to have WWC, and
my understanding is that WICEN (as an incorporated
volunteer organisation) should be able to sponsor
those wishing to gain WWC.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial" color="navy"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Personally, I
have had WWC for many years and recommend all WICEN
members obtaining one too. <br>
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<font color="navy"><font size="2"><font face="Arial">For me
personally, it's a non issue. I already have a WWC, which I
ned for both work and volunteer roles, so the only change
would be adding WICEN to my list of places where I use it.
On an organisational level, I do see it as a good thing to
require WWC for all members. That's got to be a selling
point for operating at any events where there's likely to be
children. Having WWCs also means less risk of having to
test those grey areas in court.</font></font></font><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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