<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Hi Tony; yes, paranoia it may be considered as, but keep in mind that this is an INDUSTRY policy, not an employer policy- so it's a far more widespread requirement than just a localised thing.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I just wanted to bring to members attention where things are going / have gone as far as the whole WWC thing is concerned. Those that treat it lightly do so at their own peril.....</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Tim.<br><br>Sent from my iThing.</div><div><br>On 19 Jul 2017, at 09:00, Tony Langdon <<a href="mailto:vk3jed@vkradio.com">vk3jed@vkradio.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
  
  
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/07/2017 9:23 PM, Timothy Mc Bain
      - VK3MIT wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:040601d2ffb8$58084cd0$0818e670$@gmail.com">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
      <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered
        medium)">
      <style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
        {font-family:Helvetica;
        panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:"Cambria Math";
        panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Calibri;
        panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Georgia;
        panose-1:2 4 5 2 5 4 5 2 3 3;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Consolas;
        panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
        {margin:0cm;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:11.0pt;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:blue;
        text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:purple;
        text-decoration:underline;}
pre
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted Char";
        margin:0cm;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:"Courier New";}
p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0
        {mso-style-name:msonormal;
        mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
        margin-right:0cm;
        mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
        margin-left:0cm;
        font-size:11.0pt;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
span.hoenzb
        {mso-style-name:hoenzb;}
span.m1113648156886485963hoenzb
        {mso-style-name:m_1113648156886485963hoenzb;}
span.HTMLPreformattedChar
        {mso-style-name:"HTML Preformatted Char";
        mso-style-priority:99;
        mso-style-link:"HTML Preformatted";
        font-family:"Consolas",serif;
        mso-fareast-language:EN-AU;}
span.EmailStyle23
        {mso-style-type:personal;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
        color:windowtext;}
span.EmailStyle24
        {mso-style-type:personal-compose;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
        color:windowtext;}
.MsoChpDefault
        {mso-style-type:export-only;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
        mso-fareast-language:EN-US;}
@page WordSection1
        {size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
        margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
        {page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">An
            interesting discussion.</span></p>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    Certainly is, and a few points of view to consider.<br>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:040601d2ffb8$58084cd0$0818e670$@gmail.com">
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
            have a WWC card, as it is a requirement of my employment as
            a Coach Driver. (At least the WWC fee is tax deductible….)</span></p>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    I work in state schools, so I have a similar WWC requirement.  In
    addition, I'm also a junior leader with the CFA, which is a
    voluntary position that requires a WWC, as well as formal
    registration with the CFA.<br>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:040601d2ffb8$58084cd0$0818e670$@gmail.com">
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
            have listed not only WICEN as an “employer” or “interested
            party”, but also all radio clubs that I belong to, amongst
            other groups. Most, if not all of us would be members of a
            Radio Club, who, hopefully, have their fair share of youth
            coming through the ranks, hence the WWC need. What are the
            policies of those clubs that you belong to relating to WWC
            requirements? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
            attitude I’ve taken (both on a professional requirement
            level and on a private level) is to include every single
            type of activity, no matter how unlikely, that I may be
            involved with that may involve minors – camps, sporting
            activities, transporting of, etc etc. </span></p>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    I haven't gone to that extent yet, but can understand the rationale,
    and if I become more active in other bodies, I would list them
    (WICEN exercises have an unfortunate habit of conflicting with
    significant events here)<br>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:040601d2ffb8$58084cd0$0818e670$@gmail.com">
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
            understand the possible concern about “big brother” or
            similar, but when you have been issued Bus Industry policy
            documentation (that had to be signed and returned) that
            warns against ANY contact with a child – including such
            things as a “high five”, shaking hands, any form of
            comforting of a child who may be upset or injured, and even
            just talking with a child (as it may be considered
            “grooming”) etc etc, one gets <u>very cautious</u>.</span></p>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    Wow, that's getting into paranoia, but I guess it's a sign of the
    society in which we live. :/
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://vkradio.com">http://vkradio.com</a></pre>
  

</div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>wicenvic mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:wicenvic@vic.wicen.org.au">wicenvic@vic.wicen.org.au</a></span><br><span><a href="http://vic.wicen.org.au/mailman/listinfo/wicenvic_vic.wicen.org.au">http://vic.wicen.org.au/mailman/listinfo/wicenvic_vic.wicen.org.au</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>